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brooks testifying with andy coulson. coulson went on to become david cameron's spokesman and has since resigned and has been arrested in the scandal. >> can i ask, the one element if you ever pay the bliss for information? >> we have paid police for information in the past, and it's been -- >> will you do it in the put? >> it depends on -- >> within the code and within the law, there is a clear public interest and the same holds for private detectives, subterfuge. >> it's illegal for police officers to receive payments. >> no, no, no. i just said within the law. >> this is not only the beginning of the scandal. it's the beginning of the news corporation's attempts at damage control. coulson stepping in to blunt brooks' answers. i spoke with the other british whistleblower about the death of sean hoare and about the spread of allegations of illegal practices up the chain of command at news corp. here are the other stories we're digging into tonight, first. >>> deadline, do they know what the word means in washington? two
brooks testifying with andy coulson. coulson went on to become david cameron's spokesman and has since resigned and has been arrested in the scandal. >> can i ask, the one element if you ever pay the bliss for information? >> we have paid police for information in the past, and it's been -- >> will you do it in the put? >> it depends on -- >> within the code and within the law, there is a clear public interest and the same holds for private detectives, subterfuge....
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remember, rebekah brooks who supervised the "news of the world," she's currently under arrest. so, rupert murdoch couldn't be in the business of acknowledging what seemed fairly obvious with all due respect to our colleague, piers. thises wasn't a question of not supervising the newspaper, this was not reading the newspaper. i mean, it was obvious if you read "news of the world" that they were in people's voice mail. i mean, so the idea that murdoch, sr., murdoch jr., didn't know that they were reading people's voice mails, much less rebekah brooks seems pretty preposterous to me. >> joanne, where do you see this heading? obviously you have the parliamentary inquiry and legal inqui inquiry, but in terms of the legacy of a proud man, you mentioned his aperns ppearance davos and he takes great pride in his empire, what has it done to the legacy of rupert murdoch? >> i think do you know what, one of the most key things he said the entire day was when he said, no, i will not resign because i'm the one that is best prepared to clean this up. and i think that he really feels he did b
remember, rebekah brooks who supervised the "news of the world," she's currently under arrest. so, rupert murdoch couldn't be in the business of acknowledging what seemed fairly obvious with all due respect to our colleague, piers. thises wasn't a question of not supervising the newspaper, this was not reading the newspaper. i mean, it was obvious if you read "news of the world" that they were in people's voice mail. i mean, so the idea that murdoch, sr., murdoch jr., didn't...
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the whole point was, if we can label our former bosses, rebekah brooks, andy coulson who are arrested, not criminal masterminds but engaged in a media empire where criminality was rif, if that media empire got david cameron elected as the british prime minister, that's a good story. >> i have a break coming up. since you mentioned rebekah brooks and andy coulson, both former editors of "news of the world," do you have any doubt that they knew phone hacking was going on at that paperer? >> i have no doubt whatsoever. piers morgan was also my editor, but in that time in 1994-'5, it wasn't illegal. you could sit outside someone's house and tap into their phone conversations and record all of it. and also look at their messages. i need to ask a lawyer actually, is it legal for a wife to hack into her husband's phone if she thinks he's cheating? about 10% of the population of britain have done that, too sgle well ooh keep our focus on journalists. paul mcmull land, good luck with the pub. >> thanks. >>> coming up on the second part of "reliable sources," debt talks collapse after news repo
the whole point was, if we can label our former bosses, rebekah brooks, andy coulson who are arrested, not criminal masterminds but engaged in a media empire where criminality was rif, if that media empire got david cameron elected as the british prime minister, that's a good story. >> i have a break coming up. since you mentioned rebekah brooks and andy coulson, both former editors of "news of the world," do you have any doubt that they knew phone hacking was going on at that...
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. >> miss brooks. rupert murdoch in his evidence session said quitely that the responsibility for the closure of news of the world fell fairly and swearly on senior management which i assume would include you, is that the case? >> i think i missed that part of the evidence. i think mr. murdoch said it exactly how it was. that it was a collective decision. we all talked together. mr. murdoch was abroad at the time at a conference. we all talked together. >> murdoch senior? >> yes, rupert murdoch. >> you were going to say something snels. >> no. >> when you were advising your staff the paper was closing during the private session. i think you said something like there was more to come. youl you like to expand? >> when i went down to the newsroom to explain the decision, clearly and and quite rightly the journalists on the news of the world who very honorable journalists who have been putting out the newspaper under the scrutiny for a long time and with great exclusives and great pride in their newspaper
. >> miss brooks. rupert murdoch in his evidence session said quitely that the responsibility for the closure of news of the world fell fairly and swearly on senior management which i assume would include you, is that the case? >> i think i missed that part of the evidence. i think mr. murdoch said it exactly how it was. that it was a collective decision. we all talked together. mr. murdoch was abroad at the time at a conference. we all talked together. >> murdoch senior?...
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we know he had various conversations with rebekah brooks, the chief executive but we're told that they were appropriate but don't know what the content is yet. i don't want to get too bogged down in the detail. the short answer is not at the moment. i don't think anyone's talking about him being in a perilous position yet. this is slowly incrementally getting closer and closer to downing street's door. it is very, very awkward for the prime minister. it's taken up a lot of his time and put him in a difficult position. i think he's desperately hoping after today's combative exchanges in the house of commons behind me, this will be a line drawn under it. it will then go back to the police inquiry. this lot the politicians will be off on their summer holidays and i would think david cameron will be hoping this will be off his initial sort of entree for the summer and he can concentrate on other things. >> let's revisit rupert murdoch's testimony. refusing to take any responsibility for this phone hacking scandal. take a quick peek. >> do you accept that ultimately, you are responsible for
we know he had various conversations with rebekah brooks, the chief executive but we're told that they were appropriate but don't know what the content is yet. i don't want to get too bogged down in the detail. the short answer is not at the moment. i don't think anyone's talking about him being in a perilous position yet. this is slowly incrementally getting closer and closer to downing street's door. it is very, very awkward for the prime minister. it's taken up a lot of his time and put him...
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the president of the united states is saying that is what he wants to do. >> do you agree with david brooks that this group of republicans have no moral theory or were the of the name? >> the extremes don't, but john boehner actually, who often touts the views of the nuts he ads- [laughter] --a responsible bguy >> can i get a word in here? >> and then pull it off. "i cannot control them, they are crazy, they are crazy," it is up valuable bargaining chip for him. >> i like being on a show where ad hominems cannot use. liberals are always thought about why the's conservatives. everybody today worships ronald reagan. i lived in the ronald reagan era. liberals called him an amiable dunce asset to -- and a threat to civilization. a sickly, on the question of the 14th amendment, the -- secondly, on the question of the 14th amendment, it would end up under the jurisdiction of john roberts. >> we've been talking about this stuff or 20 years, the need to fix entitlements. everybody says you have to do somethin nobody does anything, and here we are. >> think this is the most historic weekend of the o
the president of the united states is saying that is what he wants to do. >> do you agree with david brooks that this group of republicans have no moral theory or were the of the name? >> the extremes don't, but john boehner actually, who often touts the views of the nuts he ads- [laughter] --a responsible bguy >> can i get a word in here? >> and then pull it off. "i cannot control them, they are crazy, they are crazy," it is up valuable bargaining chip for...
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"new york times - -- have we read it is talking about conservative "new york times" columnist david brooks, wrote that the republican party is no longer a normal party. its members, he says, don't accept the logic of compromise. >> forgive me, i have to correct your copy again. he is a great calmness, but he's not conservative -- great columnist, but he's not conservative. he is moderate. >> moderate conservative. >> no, he is moderate, open to all views. what you are saying, if you hear eric cantor john boehner, we are ready for tax reform, which was done in the mid-1980's. you cut out the loopholes and you use the money to cut rates. you get the fairness. rich don't have advantages by having the lobbyists create loopholes and exploit them. you stimulate economic growth because the loopholes and in and of themselves is starting economically and the low rates encourage economic activity. that is what republicans have been asking for, not to eliminate a loophole here and there, which, in the end, but not absolutely nothing. >> the validity of the public debt of the united states will not be
"new york times - -- have we read it is talking about conservative "new york times" columnist david brooks, wrote that the republican party is no longer a normal party. its members, he says, don't accept the logic of compromise. >> forgive me, i have to correct your copy again. he is a great calmness, but he's not conservative -- great columnist, but he's not conservative. he is moderate. >> moderate conservative. >> no, he is moderate, open to all views. what...
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miss brooks was released without being charged. both sections receiving major media coverage in the u.k. and here in the states and we should note that news corporation is the parent company of fox news channel. rich, let me start with you. we heard the sound bite from rupert murdoch during the testimony, saying, hey, this is getting the attention it's getting because of our competitors who would love to see us fail. does he have a point. >> yeah, i think it plays into it. to me reminds me of the valerie plame flap, disproportionate primarily driven by politics. especially the coverage in the united states. the new york times the other day had two front page side by side lengthy stories about something going on in britain. to do that otherwise, you would need the queen to abdicate and the plague to hit london. clearly there's a political agenda at work here. >> the testimony from the murdoches and the testimony from rebecca brooks, coverage as we said, both, here in the states and of course in the u.k. all the cable news networks o
miss brooks was released without being charged. both sections receiving major media coverage in the u.k. and here in the states and we should note that news corporation is the parent company of fox news channel. rich, let me start with you. we heard the sound bite from rupert murdoch during the testimony, saying, hey, this is getting the attention it's getting because of our competitors who would love to see us fail. does he have a point. >> yeah, i think it plays into it. to me reminds...
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he was not in day-to-day control. >> was rebekah brooks in day-to- day control? >> yes. >> why is she still being backed when it is clear that legal opinion will come to see what kind of responsibility, she was the editor when the phone was being attacked. >> i understand what happened. what month ofw was doing carrying on supporting her. >> she is innocent of the charges against her. what damage ultimately happens to the wider entire - -empire? >> i don't know. this global scandal, murdoch is one of the best things that ever happened to this kind of journalism. without murdoch, there were probably be no "guardian," "independent," or competition for you at the bbc. >> said that is a perfectly fair point. he loves newspapers. the thing that we should talk about is what has happened over the past two years. for the last two years, this company has been denying it. they went to parliament. they have misled everyone. they're still paying the person knows the truth. they have been high resistance to all of the lawsuits. they have been desperate to get the story out an
he was not in day-to-day control. >> was rebekah brooks in day-to- day control? >> yes. >> why is she still being backed when it is clear that legal opinion will come to see what kind of responsibility, she was the editor when the phone was being attacked. >> i understand what happened. what month ofw was doing carrying on supporting her. >> she is innocent of the charges against her. what damage ultimately happens to the wider entire - -empire? >> i don't...
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this week the world watched as rupert murdoch, his son james and protege rebekah brooks answered questions about the phone hacking scandal. some ex "news of the world" editors say he gave mistaken information to the committee. atika, what's this about? >> this is not just the ex-editor, but also the former lawyer for "news of the world" saying james murdoch was very much mistaken in his testimony, that he had been informed about an e-mail called the fornevil e-mail that showed the problem was not limited to one reporter, that this was more than a single person. it went much further. so this suggests that possibly james murdoch actually knew about this much earlier and that he settled with another claimant on this issue in order to basically cover it up. now, james murdoch has replayed to this challenge by his former editor and lawyer saying just very similar ly, i stand by my testimony to the select committee. very kurt reply. the committee members are not happy about this at all, they say they want to hear back from james murdoch to explain exactly what happened. was he lying the the comm
this week the world watched as rupert murdoch, his son james and protege rebekah brooks answered questions about the phone hacking scandal. some ex "news of the world" editors say he gave mistaken information to the committee. atika, what's this about? >> this is not just the ex-editor, but also the former lawyer for "news of the world" saying james murdoch was very much mistaken in his testimony, that he had been informed about an e-mail called the fornevil e-mail...
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do you regret closing the "news of the world" to try and save rebekah brooks? in hindsight do you wish you'd accepted her resignation to start with, in order that that paper with a fine tradition could probably continue and all of the people who are now out of work could still be in work? >> i regret very much the fate of people who will not be able to find work. the two decisions were totally unrelated. absolutely and totally unrelated. >> so when you came into the u.k. and said your priority was rebekah brooks -- >> i'm not sure i did say that. i was quoted as saying that. i walked outside my flat and had about 20 microphones stuck in my mouth so i'm not sure what i said. >> so you were misquoted? >> i'm not saying that. i just don't remember. >> i'm sorry, mr. chairman. mr. davies, it's important that the closure of a newspaper with a history of 160 some odd years history is something that is a grave thing and something that is a serious matter of regret for us, for the company. but much more serious than that is the seriousness of really the violation of pr
do you regret closing the "news of the world" to try and save rebekah brooks? in hindsight do you wish you'd accepted her resignation to start with, in order that that paper with a fine tradition could probably continue and all of the people who are now out of work could still be in work? >> i regret very much the fate of people who will not be able to find work. the two decisions were totally unrelated. absolutely and totally unrelated. >> so when you came into the u.k....
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the criticism of him, by david brooks most recently this week, is that he is too much like the senate majority leader. the president has the bully pulpit and he used it. at that republicans started screaming bloody murder indicates that they are worried about it. >> charles? >> the problem is that this has the feel of a town whe the president, the leader is not beating. he did not propose a budget. well the one he did was voted down by the senate 97-0, it was so preposterous. the democrats in control the senate have not produce a budget in two years. republicans have. we have a president at a full campaign mode wawas not proposing anything at a public -- who knows whether in private. there is no democratic proposal on the table for a budget. he is demagoguing against medicare and the ryan plan. he has decided dohat and that is how you get reelected. that is why the town is floundering. >> consistency has not a problem with republicans. they have endorsed the ryan plan which does not provide for a balanced budget, and now they are pushing foror a balanced budget. 103 house republicans
the criticism of him, by david brooks most recently this week, is that he is too much like the senate majority leader. the president has the bully pulpit and he used it. at that republicans started screaming bloody murder indicates that they are worried about it. >> charles? >> the problem is that this has the feel of a town whe the president, the leader is not beating. he did not propose a budget. well the one he did was voted down by the senate 97-0, it was so preposterous. the...
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extend hours at other locations across the state guess what that's where those are they are primarily in brooke publican areas so is this just a coup when students or is this scott walker's nefarious plan to keep democratic voters from the polls now wisconsin is not the only state to target voters this year our friends over at think progress have been reporting on efforts to curb voter rights so far that they've tracked are named in two thousand and eleven now they have counted more than twenty states where republican lawmakers have used voter fraud speculation to introduce legislation to restrict voting rights now not all the measures passed this year but nearly two dozen states tried so you may be asking yourself maybe this voter fraud issue is the real deal with so many states actively fighting it well not quite the bush administration will use their methods as an example they waged a five year war on voter fraud in those five years eighty six people were convicted of illegal voting out of more than one hundred and ninety six million votes cast. maybe we should be putting our time and our en
extend hours at other locations across the state guess what that's where those are they are primarily in brooke publican areas so is this just a coup when students or is this scott walker's nefarious plan to keep democratic voters from the polls now wisconsin is not the only state to target voters this year our friends over at think progress have been reporting on efforts to curb voter rights so far that they've tracked are named in two thousand and eleven now they have counted more than twenty...
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you have rebecca brooks saying it's inconceivable she knew of any of this hacking. how can you hack 4,000 people, end up with hundreds of stories, many of them full of really, you know, delicious personal stuff that you would only learn from phone calls, and not as an editor ask where it had come from. go ahead. >> david, i was just wondering, the question we have on our minds, is this really a watergate moment for british journalism? the smear campaign against gordon brown, do you think it was politically motivated, that the paper actually had something, some skin in the game here to trash a politician, that one in particular, the prime minister? >> reporter: well, if you remember watergate, the dynamics were different. it was government trying to rub out its enemies. in this instance, you have media powers looking either for circulation or for operational leverage, going after politicians and telling them how it's going to be. it's a little scary, i guess, for the average american to think about things that way but again, you have to remember, britain is a much sm
you have rebecca brooks saying it's inconceivable she knew of any of this hacking. how can you hack 4,000 people, end up with hundreds of stories, many of them full of really, you know, delicious personal stuff that you would only learn from phone calls, and not as an editor ask where it had come from. go ahead. >> david, i was just wondering, the question we have on our minds, is this really a watergate moment for british journalism? the smear campaign against gordon brown, do you think...
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just how did rebekah brooks get to this point? of brooks first came to news international as a secretary at "news of the world." she quickly developed a reputation for her tenacity as a journalist. reportedly once disguising herself as a cleaning lady to scoop a competitor. described as both ruthless and charming, she was soon the youngest editor of the "news of the world" and shortly after that, "the sun," both owned by murdoch's news international. she spoerheaded a controversial campaign to quote name and shame alleged pedophiles, publishing their names and addresses in the paper. as the editor of "the sun" brooks testified to parliament that her paper had paid police officers for information, and it was under her editorship that the "news of the world" allegedly paid a private investigator to hack into the voice mail messages of millie dowlor, the 13-year-old girl murdered in britain whose front page revelations made headlines. brooks had scaled the corporate ladder to become chief executive of news corp international, a posit
just how did rebekah brooks get to this point? of brooks first came to news international as a secretary at "news of the world." she quickly developed a reputation for her tenacity as a journalist. reportedly once disguising herself as a cleaning lady to scoop a competitor. described as both ruthless and charming, she was soon the youngest editor of the "news of the world" and shortly after that, "the sun," both owned by murdoch's news international. she...
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but because of recent events, a lot of the republican moderates, the david brooks types, are going to be the ones to stand up and call a halt or come after south carolina. chris: i wonder whether cerebral writers, bright people, are not really in tune with that base out there. >> that's right. and this could be a flash in the pan. and remember mike huckabee won the iowa primary in 2008. buchanan won the new mexico primary in -- the new hampshire primary in 1996. so we'll just have to see. but i would go the conventional wisdom route on this. i think this all helps romney. there's lots of debate. there's lots of high throwing. -- pie-throwing. she probably won't go in the history books. but, again, you never know. chris: there's some spark there, i hear. she seems to have perfect pitch for some people. >> i think there's something interesting about the fact that she's so categorical about it. she's yes or no. and for a lot of back and forth that we've seen in washington, that must be very refreshing. >> chris: she's so crystal clear. i think there's a potential that there will be shift
but because of recent events, a lot of the republican moderates, the david brooks types, are going to be the ones to stand up and call a halt or come after south carolina. chris: i wonder whether cerebral writers, bright people, are not really in tune with that base out there. >> that's right. and this could be a flash in the pan. and remember mike huckabee won the iowa primary in 2008. buchanan won the new mexico primary in -- the new hampshire primary in 1996. so we'll just have to see....
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the criticism ofim, by david brooks most recently this week, is that he is too much like the senate majority leaderer. the president has the bully pulpit and he used it. at that republicans started screaming bloody murder indicates that they are worried about it. >> charles? >> the problem is that this has the feel of a town where the president, the leader is not beating. he did not propose a budget. well the one he did was voted down by the senate 97-0, it was so preposterous. the democrats in control the senate have not produce a budget in two years. republicans have. we have a president at a full campaign mode was not proposing anything at a public -- who knows whether in private. there is no democratic proposal on the table for a budget. he is demagoguing against medicare and the ryan plan. he has deced do that and that is how you get reelected. that is why the town is floundering. >> consistency has not a problem with republicans. they have endorsed the ryan plan which does not provide for a balanced budget, and now they are pushing for a balanced budget. 103 house republicans have alre
the criticism ofim, by david brooks most recently this week, is that he is too much like the senate majority leaderer. the president has the bully pulpit and he used it. at that republicans started screaming bloody murder indicates that they are worried about it. >> charles? >> the problem is that this has the feel of a town where the president, the leader is not beating. he did not propose a budget. well the one he did was voted down by the senate 97-0, it was so preposterous. the...
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newspapers. >> [unintelligible] rebekah brooks? >> i forget, but i expect that with my son we were both in daily contact. >> [unintelligible] >> no. >> you were not informed? >> no. >> at no point were you aware that they were being paid payments? >> no. >> the u.s. hockey committee, if there was a victim of the crime, having to address the matter of mr. taylor in some detail? >> my father became aware, after the settlement was made, in 2009, after the confidential settlement had become public and the newspaper reported afterwards. the understanding was that the settlement out of court was a civil claim, something of that nature we did not believe that a company our size, with responsible executives in the territory of the country, would be authorized to make. my father is the glow will chief executive. >> mr. murdoch, when you found out that criminality was in debt met at open quote news of the world close "? -- "news of the world"? >> [unintelligible] justice taking place now. it has been discouraged. we were shocked, appalled, a
newspapers. >> [unintelligible] rebekah brooks? >> i forget, but i expect that with my son we were both in daily contact. >> [unintelligible] >> no. >> you were not informed? >> no. >> at no point were you aware that they were being paid payments? >> no. >> the u.s. hockey committee, if there was a victim of the crime, having to address the matter of mr. taylor in some detail? >> my father became aware, after the settlement was made,...
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>> in the modern era, there isn't it a lyndon johnson, and the criticism of him, by david brooks this week, is that he's too much like the senate majority leader. the president has a bully pulpit, and he used it, and that at the republicans started screaming bloody murder indicates that they are worried about it. >> charles? >> the problems this at -- problem is that this has the feel of a town with a leader was not leading. he did not propose a budget -- well, the one he did it was voted down by the senate 97-0, it was so preposterous. the democrats in congress have not proposed a budget in two years. the republicans have. what we have is a president in full campaign mode was not proposing anything in public -- who knows whether in private. it seriously, there is no democratic proposal on the table for a budget. he is demagoguing against medicare and the ryan plan, and he has decided, do that and that is how you get reelected. that is why the town is floundering. >> consistency has not been a problem with republicans. they have endorsed the ryan plan, budget, and -- which does not pr
>> in the modern era, there isn't it a lyndon johnson, and the criticism of him, by david brooks this week, is that he's too much like the senate majority leader. the president has a bully pulpit, and he used it, and that at the republicans started screaming bloody murder indicates that they are worried about it. >> charles? >> the problems this at -- problem is that this has the feel of a town with a leader was not leading. he did not propose a budget -- well, the one he did...
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>> in the modern era, there isn't it a lyndon johnson, and the criticism of him, by david brooks this week, is that he's too much like the senate majority leader. the president has a bully pulpit, and he used it, and that at the republicans started screaming bloody murder indicates that they are worried about it. >> charles? >> the problems this at -- problem is that this has the feel of a town with a leader was not leading. he did not propose a budget -- well, the one he did it was voted down by the senate 97-0, it was so preposterous. the democrats in congress have not proposed a budget in two years. the republicans have. what we have is a president in full campaign mode was not proposing anything in public -- who knows whether in private. it seriously, there is no democratic proposal on the table for a budget. he is demagoguing against medicare and the ryan plan, and he has decided, do that and that is how you get reelected. that is why the town is floundering. >> consistency has not been a problem with republicans. they have endorsed the ryan plan, budget, and -- which does not pr
>> in the modern era, there isn't it a lyndon johnson, and the criticism of him, by david brooks this week, is that he's too much like the senate majority leader. the president has a bully pulpit, and he used it, and that at the republicans started screaming bloody murder indicates that they are worried about it. >> charles? >> the problems this at -- problem is that this has the feel of a town with a leader was not leading. he did not propose a budget -- well, the one he did...
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here is a little bit of rebekah brooks. >> rebekah brooks was invited six times a year to 10 downing street under both the former prime ministers. she has not been invited by mae. i have set out -- the great contrast is i have set out things i have in complete contrast to the party opposite. i can say this to the hon. gentleman, i have never held a slumber party or seen her in her pajamas. host: that, of course, was prime minister cameron from this morning talking about his relationship with rebekah brooks. she talked about her relationship with the prime minister yesterday. alex spillius. guest: as mr. cameron was saying, she has been friends not just with him, but previous prime minister gordon brown, and probably tony blair, too. his point was "it is not just me." she slept over at the official country residence one time when gordon brown was prime minister. but david cameron is prime minister now and he is very close to her. in the light of what we now know about what "news of the world closed what journalists were up to, people in britain are having a heart -- what "news of the
here is a little bit of rebekah brooks. >> rebekah brooks was invited six times a year to 10 downing street under both the former prime ministers. she has not been invited by mae. i have set out -- the great contrast is i have set out things i have in complete contrast to the party opposite. i can say this to the hon. gentleman, i have never held a slumber party or seen her in her pajamas. host: that, of course, was prime minister cameron from this morning talking about his relationship...
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. >> reporter: in the office, becker also took a picture of a stock stack of brooks written by a self-proclaimed former lesbian. who claims she was able to cure her homosexuality through god. >> i believe god was by my side. calling my name even though i was trapped in this sin. >> on the wall was a personal endorsement from dr. bachmann recommending her book and saying her book spoke a truth that could set people free. >> reporter: becker attended five sessions at the bachmann clinic, charged about $73 for each visit. each session began and ended with a prayer. the american psychological association has told members the idea of converting gays through therapy and prayer, called reparative therapy, is both ineffective and potentially harmful. >> efforts to pray away sexual orientation from the evidence we've seen areunlikely to be effective. now, that's not to say that people can't change their behavior or even change their identity, but changing their sexual orientation, changing that deep part of them about who they're attracted to, which emerges spontaneously in adolescence without choice, we
. >> reporter: in the office, becker also took a picture of a stock stack of brooks written by a self-proclaimed former lesbian. who claims she was able to cure her homosexuality through god. >> i believe god was by my side. calling my name even though i was trapped in this sin. >> on the wall was a personal endorsement from dr. bachmann recommending her book and saying her book spoke a truth that could set people free. >> reporter: becker attended five sessions at the...
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we are still waiting to hear from rebekah brooks. if you see it he was trying to get a pie in the face of rupert murdoch. if we can get that shot back up again, you can see in niz left hand a tin -- and see if we can get that shot back up. it looks like he had a tin in his left hand a cream pie that he was going to smash in the face of rupert murdoch during these hearings. the man was quickly taken away in handcuffs. you saw the images of him outside he had something all over his face. wendy dang in the pink jumping up. she is a volleyball player. that looks like a spike. she's known to be a fan of volleyball. anyway, you can see the pie right there trying to get in the face of rupert murdoch. the woman in the gray i'm not sure who she is. she was sitting to the left op of wendy dang. michelle is with us now. is this ovenly some type of protesters coming in to disrupt this and create a true embarrassment to rupert murdoch by delivering a pie in the face? >> we guess. we're basically looking at the exact same pictures that you are. an
we are still waiting to hear from rebekah brooks. if you see it he was trying to get a pie in the face of rupert murdoch. if we can get that shot back up again, you can see in niz left hand a tin -- and see if we can get that shot back up. it looks like he had a tin in his left hand a cream pie that he was going to smash in the face of rupert murdoch during these hearings. the man was quickly taken away in handcuffs. you saw the images of him outside he had something all over his face. wendy...
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in the meantime we're waiting for rebekah brooks to give evidence. here with our editor, adam bolson before rebekah brooks comes in one word about the security breach. a shocking moment this afternoon. >> clearly, rupert is an old man and therefore, any sort of assault even though it was kind of a comedy assault apparently about this come need wran -- comedian, calls himself johnny marbles is serious matter. there were no weapons there because you have to get searched getting into these rooms even if that was the intent. frankly i didn't think that either of the two murdoches giving evidence seemed particularly shaken by the experience. and, you know, although it is dramatic i suspect it will be will testimony in the long run will be important. one aspect, anna, worth mentioning, you may remember rupert murdoch said i think it was rupert murdoch rather than james, said les hinton, the then boss of "news international" have been tofked along with colin miler, last editor of "the news of the world" to see if there was anymore mess around the hacking an
in the meantime we're waiting for rebekah brooks to give evidence. here with our editor, adam bolson before rebekah brooks comes in one word about the security breach. a shocking moment this afternoon. >> clearly, rupert is an old man and therefore, any sort of assault even though it was kind of a comedy assault apparently about this come need wran -- comedian, calls himself johnny marbles is serious matter. there were no weapons there because you have to get searched getting into these...
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that will be with rebekah brooks. we expect rupert murdoch there, quite clear, saying phone hacking is wrong, paying police officers is wrong, has no part in news international, no part in news corp, and saying there will be no excuses. our colleague looks at these things from a rounded point of view, did the murdochs do what they needed to do to put a bit of shine back on the company, or not? >> i think, richard, if you look at all the comments they made over the course of the past three hours, what comes out loud and clear to me are two executives who appear profoundly out of touch. some of the statements that we heard earlier, i made lots of notes as you can imagine, all news organizations use private investigators, as if that legitimizes the practice. i trusted people. excuse me, the chief executive of a company is responsible. so mr. murdochs, both, need to own what has happened in their organization. the culture is clearly broken. there are so many other comments like that. >> right. let's go round, we will stay
that will be with rebekah brooks. we expect rupert murdoch there, quite clear, saying phone hacking is wrong, paying police officers is wrong, has no part in news international, no part in news corp, and saying there will be no excuses. our colleague looks at these things from a rounded point of view, did the murdochs do what they needed to do to put a bit of shine back on the company, or not? >> i think, richard, if you look at all the comments they made over the course of the past three...
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doesn't stand a chance however it goes to show that total corruption of the republican party as david brooks put it in the new york times no longer a normal political party but really. an extremist religious group or people pandering to them which the other candidates will have to do on the litmus test of their culture war issues like abortion and gay rights and she's just the be to me of it i guess she's scarier than the rest because i think she's completely sincere and actually believes her own her own statements you know frank tell us about bradley dean he seems to be a christian axl rose wanna be like we have a photo of both of them and and bradley bradley dean is the guy with a longer and you know he's. christian rock n roll singer i guess yeah there's more. well if you go on youtube and listen to his rants you know every other words homo sexual this homo sexual that homo sexual criminals this homosexual that he seems to absolutely be. not just homophobic but but essential. you know fearful you know there was this story about michele bachmann and it really nice talking about how she was
doesn't stand a chance however it goes to show that total corruption of the republican party as david brooks put it in the new york times no longer a normal political party but really. an extremist religious group or people pandering to them which the other candidates will have to do on the litmus test of their culture war issues like abortion and gay rights and she's just the be to me of it i guess she's scarier than the rest because i think she's completely sincere and actually believes her...
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murdoch's sce and particularly the pie moment it was a bit of an anticlimax, rebecca brooks. she got off extraordinary lightly this wasn't the forensic grilling you may get in a senate committee. it was fairly sloppy quite a lot of time. she looked pretty awful i thought and it was put in a pretty controlled performance i think almost sort of playing for the sympathy vote a bit but just like james murdoc murdoch, the of her position was i didn't know about this and the mps simply didn't have the resources or information to cross-examine her lightly enough to unpick her story and she also was able to say look i've bee arrest and being investigated i can't answer difficult questions. >> she had a side door is that was not available to the murdoches because of this arrest which none us expected she went in forrg she could go out the side door of saying she was subject to arrest and the band width of what she could say wa narrow. >> charlie: would have been better had they not arrested her? >> by a million miles. >> those of us that are fans of senate questions is when you're und
murdoch's sce and particularly the pie moment it was a bit of an anticlimax, rebecca brooks. she got off extraordinary lightly this wasn't the forensic grilling you may get in a senate committee. it was fairly sloppy quite a lot of time. she looked pretty awful i thought and it was put in a pretty controlled performance i think almost sort of playing for the sympathy vote a bit but just like james murdoc murdoch, the of her position was i didn't know about this and the mps simply didn't have...
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you were at rebecca brooks' wedding. i want you to tell me about the interactions and who else was at that wedding? >> who else was there? gordon brown was there. prime minister. david cameron, leader of the opposition. giorgos born, chancellor. a lot of main medias were there. and piers morgan, who has gone very quiet on this issue. he was there as well. >> piers morgan has spoken about it, has done a show about it, he has not been quiet on it. >> okay. okay. >> david cameron is speaking to parliament tomorrow. can he survive this? >> i don't have any doubt about that, but i think he would be in a much stronger position if he came out and admitted he made an error of judgment in hiring andy coulson, the editor of news of the world when the known phone hacking was going on, as his communications director, and he's now sort of busy saying i wanted to give the guy a second chance. he's the prime minister, not a probation officer and there are lots of people in the world that would like to get a second chance for things the
you were at rebecca brooks' wedding. i want you to tell me about the interactions and who else was at that wedding? >> who else was there? gordon brown was there. prime minister. david cameron, leader of the opposition. giorgos born, chancellor. a lot of main medias were there. and piers morgan, who has gone very quiet on this issue. he was there as well. >> piers morgan has spoken about it, has done a show about it, he has not been quiet on it. >> okay. okay. >> david...
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news corp chief, ruprd murdoch, his son and former chief executive, rebekah brooks, will face some tough questioning, appearing before lawmakers this morning, this as the developments in the growing phone hacking scandal seem to be changing by the hour. nbc's jim maceda is live for us in london outside parliment with details. jim, good morning. >> good morning, lynn. well all eyes will definitely be on a small room inside that building behind me, the mother of parliament it's called here. just big enough for 40 or so spectators, but there will be overflow rooms with television sets. this is really must-see tv today in great britain and for many other places. certainly the united states, which is why there's so much media here today as well. as one british politician put it, it's the three musketeers of the murdoch media empire and the phone-hacking scandal that will appear here later today. they'll be grilled by ten members of a select committee. it doesn't sound like much, it's the committee for culture and media. these hearings will only last an hour for rupert and his 38-year-old son,
news corp chief, ruprd murdoch, his son and former chief executive, rebekah brooks, will face some tough questioning, appearing before lawmakers this morning, this as the developments in the growing phone hacking scandal seem to be changing by the hour. nbc's jim maceda is live for us in london outside parliment with details. jim, good morning. >> good morning, lynn. well all eyes will definitely be on a small room inside that building behind me, the mother of parliament it's called here....
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brooks, that mr. hinton or any of those executives had knowledge of that and their asoer asserti assertion, ms. brooks and her knowledge of those things to me has been clear. nonetheless, those resignations have been accepted, but it's important, you know, on the basis that there is no evidence today that i have seen or that i had any knowledge of that there was any impropriety by then. >> i'm going to turn to tom watson. >> good afternoon, sir. you've repeatedly stated that news corps has a zero tolerance to longdoing by employee wrong employees? is that so? >> yes. >> is it true you made your speech, let me be clear we will vigorously pursue the truth and will not tolerate wrongdoing. >> yes. >> so if you were not lying then, somebody lied to you. who was it? >> i don't know. that is what the police are investigating and we are helping them with. >> but you acknowledge that you were misled? >> clearly. >> can i take you back to 2003. are you aware that in march of that year rebekah brooks gave evide
brooks, that mr. hinton or any of those executives had knowledge of that and their asoer asserti assertion, ms. brooks and her knowledge of those things to me has been clear. nonetheless, those resignations have been accepted, but it's important, you know, on the basis that there is no evidence today that i have seen or that i had any knowledge of that there was any impropriety by then. >> i'm going to turn to tom watson. >> good afternoon, sir. you've repeatedly stated that news...
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it is this sort of story that rebekah brooks would have loved. now the ex chief executive of followed the murdoch's into the committee room and matched their contrition. >> how could you be so unaware of such fundamental issues? >> in some ways, i think the opposite. i don't know anyone in their right mind who would authorize or sanction approval of anyone listening to the voice mail of milly dowler. i don't know anyone who would think that was a right and proper thing to do. >> someone did it and someone approved it and someone covered it up. when rupert murdoch swept out of westminster, we were no closer to knowing who. we do know that this is a day he did not enjoy. >> as you have heard, the revelations about milly dowler's phone are what brought the scandal to a whole new level. many of the details were first revealed in "the guardian," newspaper. tonight, i spoke with the deputy editor and asked him if he believed that the murdoch's did not know about the phone hacking. >> this is very difficult to say. rupert murdoch's performance was reall
it is this sort of story that rebekah brooks would have loved. now the ex chief executive of followed the murdoch's into the committee room and matched their contrition. >> how could you be so unaware of such fundamental issues? >> in some ways, i think the opposite. i don't know anyone in their right mind who would authorize or sanction approval of anyone listening to the voice mail of milly dowler. i don't know anyone who would think that was a right and proper thing to do....
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brooke has been braving pretty bad weather. brooke? >> reporter: yeah, e.d., not just my, but many, many people there, probably ten people in front of me here on this platform. we have dozens other here, part of our cnn crew krfrg this monumentous occasion. yeah, that lightning was quite a spectacle in the sky. thus far we're still a go, and still wondering if this launchpad, launchpad 39-a, if it was damaged by that possible lightning strike. we know crews are evaluatic that. we'll keep you posted, but, you know, all we talk about this era of the space shuttle began april 12th, 1981, with sts-1, and here we are some 30 years later with the launch of "atlantis," this is squlim maser, president of pratt & whitney rocket dyne. it's quite an accomplishment. par for the course down here, working with folks like this. i do want to talk about what is next. a lot of people are wondering, okay, this is the end of the space shuttle. when will we see astronauts back up there? do you have the answer to that, sir? >> no, i do not. i wish i did. we
brooke has been braving pretty bad weather. brooke? >> reporter: yeah, e.d., not just my, but many, many people there, probably ten people in front of me here on this platform. we have dozens other here, part of our cnn crew krfrg this monumentous occasion. yeah, that lightning was quite a spectacle in the sky. thus far we're still a go, and still wondering if this launchpad, launchpad 39-a, if it was damaged by that possible lightning strike. we know crews are evaluatic that. we'll keep...
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. >> all this puts more pressure on the prime minister's friend rebecca brooks. she is the chief executive of news international. she was also the editor of the news of the world when the girl went missing. she, like other former executives at the paper, had said that she did not know about the actions of a few reporters. news international argues she is shocked as everyone else. but they are also making the claims she does not intend to resign. >> she has been clear today that that is what she will not do. this happened in 2002. she is chief executive of a company in 2011. she is absolutely determined to get to the bottom of this issue. >> the political heat has been turned up on the murdoch's news empire. the house of commons will debate the latest allegations on wednesday. opposition politicians say they want a full inquiry. they think rebecca brooks should go. >> it was not a rogue reporter. it was not one individual. this is a systematic series of things that happened. what i want from equities -- executives is people to start taking responsibility. >> it is
. >> all this puts more pressure on the prime minister's friend rebecca brooks. she is the chief executive of news international. she was also the editor of the news of the world when the girl went missing. she, like other former executives at the paper, had said that she did not know about the actions of a few reporters. news international argues she is shocked as everyone else. but they are also making the claims she does not intend to resign. >> she has been clear today that that...
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as for rebekah brooks, we ask about what she told the mps. the mp whose committee will be asking the question was optimistic. >> i hope the committee will want to hear the truth. this is not about a lynch mob or an opportunity. >> the lawyer representing the family of the girl his phone was tapped as his doubts. >> we will be skeptical. we will see the three monkeys. they will say -- no one was speaking about this. >> in an interview, rupert murdoch insisted that his company had handled the crisis extremely well and he denied he would sell his newspapers. he said that he would work to establish his integrity. this scene is set for an extraordinary confrontation between parliament and the press. a chance for parliament to discuss these issues. >> austerity is the word and condition that many europeans have been forced to adopt even though it sparked massive protests. on thursday, the senate passed their own cost-cutting package which comes after investors started to worry that the third largest economy could be the next to go into the debt cri
as for rebekah brooks, we ask about what she told the mps. the mp whose committee will be asking the question was optimistic. >> i hope the committee will want to hear the truth. this is not about a lynch mob or an opportunity. >> the lawyer representing the family of the girl his phone was tapped as his doubts. >> we will be skeptical. we will see the three monkeys. they will say -- no one was speaking about this. >> in an interview, rupert murdoch insisted that his...
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brooks or mr. hinton, or any of those executives had knowledge of that and their assertions, certainly mrs. brooks and assertions to me of her knowledge of those things has been -- has been clear. nonetheless, those resignations have been accepted. but it's important to know on the basis that there is no evidence today that i have seen or that i have any knowledge of, that there was any impriority by them. >> turn to tom watson. >> mr. murdoch sr., good afternoon, sir. you have repeatedly stated that news corp has a zero tolerance of wrongdoing by employees. is that right? >> yes. >> in october 2010, did you still believe it to be true when you made your speech and you said, let me be clear, we will be vig -- we will vigorously pursue the truth and we will not tolerate wrongdoing? >> yes. >> so if you were not lying then, somebody lied to you, who was it? >> i don't know. that is what the police are investigating and we are helping them with. >> but you acknowledge that you were misled? >> clearly.
brooks or mr. hinton, or any of those executives had knowledge of that and their assertions, certainly mrs. brooks and assertions to me of her knowledge of those things has been -- has been clear. nonetheless, those resignations have been accepted. but it's important to know on the basis that there is no evidence today that i have seen or that i have any knowledge of, that there was any impriority by them. >> turn to tom watson. >> mr. murdoch sr., good afternoon, sir. you have...
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we are waiting for rupert and james murdoch and rebekah brooks testifying. the hearing is under way already. atika, what is the headline out of the hearing so far? >> reporter: well, basically, getting a grilling by the lawmakers about the relationship between his senior officers and news international executives. but, so far, no smoking gun. basically, they are focusing on the hiring of neil wallace, a former deputy of news of the world and he was hired by the metropolitan police as a sort of communications consultant for about a year. now they are questioning about that, because neil wallace was later on arrested for his -- in connection with the investigation into the phone hacking. so a lot of questions being thrown up now. according to paul stephenson, he said they had no way of knowing he was, in any way, involved with phone-hacking allegations when they hired him. he personally did not know of any reason why not to hire him at the time. he is still being grilled on this issue so there may be more coming out of this yet. >> everything has come up about
we are waiting for rupert and james murdoch and rebekah brooks testifying. the hearing is under way already. atika, what is the headline out of the hearing so far? >> reporter: well, basically, getting a grilling by the lawmakers about the relationship between his senior officers and news international executives. but, so far, no smoking gun. basically, they are focusing on the hiring of neil wallace, a former deputy of news of the world and he was hired by the metropolitan police as a...
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what might rebekah brooks have meant wh she said that? yoain't seen nothing yet, there's worse to come. >> she said she told the "news of the world" newsroom even as she bade them farewell and said i'm sure we've all seen performances like this, you know this hurts me more than it hurts you, she said, as she ended the careers of 280 journalists and sailed off merrily orrobably not merly on her way. we don't know what she meant but she did say in that speech on saturday evening at the "news of the world" as i recall "there's worse to come, there are dark days ahead." now maybe she was referring to some of the things we've mean? the days since then having to do with bribery of the policend the invasion of the queen's security and privacy. but i suspect that there is worse than that. we've heard talk about burglaries and break-ins. alan has just mentione the association with known criminal elements and in one case a murderer. you begin to wonder where's the bottom of this pit? it may be some way deeper than we have seen yet. >> and part of t
what might rebekah brooks have meant wh she said that? yoain't seen nothing yet, there's worse to come. >> she said she told the "news of the world" newsroom even as she bade them farewell and said i'm sure we've all seen performances like this, you know this hurts me more than it hurts you, she said, as she ended the careers of 280 journalists and sailed off merrily orrobably not merly on her way. we don't know what she meant but she did say in that speech on saturday evening...